Date: Sat, 22 Oct 1994 00:37:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Llaneza AS promised a while ago, here are Battle Rider stats for the ships from Brilliant Lances and World Tamers. I also attached the AHL stats done by another gentleman. Zhodani Vlezhdatl-Class Strike Cruiser Battle Rider Stats P10:6-6-4-2 -2 - TL-14 - FC: -5(1) L(x2)10:2-2-1-0 M:4(20) A:10 P:5 J:6 Msk (SP) J2 G4* AV:3 - MS:6 20 Note that BL gives 300-Mj laser stats but lists them as 150-Mj lasers on the weapon spec sheets. Zhodani Zhdits-Class Destroyer Escort Battle Rider Stats - -1 - TL-14 - FC: -5 L(x4)5:1-1-1-0 - A:10 {P:5} Msk (SP) J2 G6* AV:2 - - 8 The point value is 8.855 I rounded down in this case as (judgement call) this ship is meat for a Valor-Class missile boat, and might never damage the Valor at all. The Vlezhdatl rounded up. Zhodani Chatl-Class Leader Scout Battle Rider Stats - -1 - TL-14 - FC: 0 L(x1)2:1 - A:10 {P:5} J5 G2* AV:1 - - 5 Zhodani Ninz-Class Scout Battle Rider Stats - -1 - TL-14 - FC: 0 L(x1)2:1 - A:10 {P:5} Msk (SP) J2 G2 AV: 2 - - 4 Note that 3 of 4 of the Zhodani ships I have stats for have limited maneuver fuel in BR terms. Poor ship design. I expect that their larger classes are better designed or I'll have to wonder how the Imperium did so poorly against the Zhos. Vargr Ueknou-Class Corsair Battle rider Stats - -1 - TL-14 - FC: 0 L(x4) 2:1 M:2(4) A: 10 P: 4 J: 8 Msk (SP) J2 G3 AV: 1 - - 8 Scout/Courier (Standard) - -1 - TL-15 - FC: 0 L(x1)10:1 - A: 10 {P:5} (P) J2 G2 AV: 1 - - 4 Scout/Courier (old-stlye mixed weapons) - -1 - TL-15 - FC: 0 L(x1)10:1 M:1(2) A: 10 {P:5} (P) J2 G2 AV: 1 - SC:1 4 This version is for the folks who still miss the CT tripple turrets with the missile/laser/sandcaster option. Ship may guide a missile, fire lasers, or use sandcasters in a single turn due to a lack of MFDs. Broadsword-Class Mercenary Cruiser - -1 - TL-15 - FC: -6(1) L(x8)10:1 - A:10 {P:5} J:10 Msk (P) J3 G2* AV: 1 - - 13 Covenanter-Class Scout Cruiser Battle Rider Stats - -1 - TL-12/14 L(x1) 10:2-2-1-0 FC: -5(1) L(x3) 2:1 M:(1(5) A: 10 {P:5} J:10 Msk (P) J2 G3* AV: 2 - - 9 This ship has TL-14 sensors. The armor value was averaged from the scout hull's 1 and the Gazelle rear two third's 2. Khtukhao-Class Aslan Clan Transport Battle Rider Stats - -1 - TL-14 - FC: -5(1) L(x6) 2:1 - A: 10 P: 4 (P) J2 G2* AV: 1 95 ton shuttle - 6 Tukera Freighter Battle Rider Stats - -2 - TL-14 - FC: 0 L(x1)2:1 - A: 8 P: 5 J4 G1 AV: 1 - - 12 Frontier Transport Battle Rider Stats - -2 - TL-14 - FC: -5(1) L(x5) 2:1 - A: 8 {P:6) (P) J2 G2 AV: 1 - - 10 Hercules-Class Bulk Carrier Battle Rider Stats - -2 - TL-14 - FC: -5 L(x2) 2:1 - A: 8 P: 5 (P) J1 G1 AV: 1 - - 15 This ship is from World Tamers and is included for convoy scenarios. The PV was calculated and then divided in half, as given in BR pp22 Blue Scenario 6. And now one that someone else did, that belongs in this collection Date: Mon, 15 Aug 94 19:32:04 EDT From: Allen Shock <34ZBTXQ@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> Subject: BATTLE RIDER stats for Azhanti High Lightning These stats are based on the FF&S version of AHL designed by Matt Goodman and posted to the old TML awhile back. I have also included stats for the Rampart fighter which, at least in CT, the AHL carries. CF Azhanti High Lightning M 10:10-9-6-3 -3 P(x8 ___)3:2-1-0-0 TL: 14/15 - FC:-5 L(x33)10:2-2-1-0 M:24 (40) A:12 P:7 J:12 Msk (SP) J5, G2* AV:12 AuxB - MS:11 SC:33 D:8 112 Rampart Fighter - +1 _ TL:15 _ _ L 10:1-1-0-0 M0 (4)** A:10 P:2 Msk G6 AV:2 _ - 1 ** The fighter has no MFD's, but can carry four missles in grapples. These are presumably controlled by MFD's on the mother ship. The AHL carries no Battle riders, but it does carry 66 ramparts, as well as a number of fuel shuttles, etc. BR doesn't seem to have rules for fighter squadrons (perhaps they could be based on the rules for missle groups, rather than dealt with individually). We took 7 Aurora class clippers up against the AHL, without using fighters. The AHL was defeated, but there were only two Auroras left at the end, and the HL's final death was due to a "Ship Explodes" result.s Enjoy! And that concludes this edition of Maserati's Fighting Ships Next time: A few of my own designs. Anybody want to sell me a copy of Fighting Ships of the Shattered Imperium, cheap? Michael Carter Llaneza Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 17:23:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Tariq M. Rashid" Subject: Re:Battle Rider Conversions(Silly) Played Battle Rider for the first time this past Saturday, pretty cool. I can see how it could be very addicting. The vector based movement really forces a board wargamer like me to think differently. The game can also be pretty violent as well, I was suprised...33% ships KO'd after turn two and 66% KO'd after turn three, of course they were 1000-2000 ton size. The two remaining were Starburst CLs on opposite sides. The game rightly favors large ships. It seemed that It would prove difficult for the two to hurt each other except with outstanding success. However the starbursts mauled the opfor's small boys, in two cases getting kills with one blast from that meson gun. I now see why everyone was so incredulous when someone reported a while back that even 7 Auroras managed to get an Azhanti High Lightning. All in all a pretty cool game...hope it catches on in the general gaming public, could be a classic IMHO. Warning slightly silly materiel to follow. Before actually playing Battle Rider, Lewis Roberts and I converted some of the less glamorous BL ships to BR, they would maybe be useful as victims or as a convoy to be escorted, who knows? Key.... MA=Merchant Armed L=Lab Ship SS=Survey Ship ******************************** MA Jayhawk-Far Trader - -1 - TL-12 - FC:0 L(x1)4:1-1-0-0 M0 A:0 P:1 SP J2 G1* AV:0 - - 5 ********************************* MA Moraine Free Trader - -1 - TL-10 - FC:0 L(x1)1:0 M:0 A:0 P:1 SP J1 G1 AV:0 - - 4 ********************************* L Lab Ship - -1 - TL 15 - FC:0 L(x4)10:1 M:0 A:10 P:5 P J4 G4 AV:2 - - 7 ********************************* SS Donosev - -1 - TL-15 - FC:0 L(x4)10:1 M:0 A:1 P:8 P J3 G2 AV:1 - - 12 *********************************** Bastien Liner - -1 - TL 12 - FC:0 L(x3)4:1-1-0-0 M:0 A:0 P:1 P J3 G1 AV:0 - - 9 ************************************ Note that the Adm Bertil below was not formally converted to BL, just a type of back of envelope guessing and approxiamation. MA Admiral Bertil - -1 - TL 13 - FC:1 L(x3)10:1-1-0-0 M:1(2) A:2 P:2 P J3 G1 AV:1 6xKestrel SC:2 10 ************************************** MA Eakhau Aslan Trader - -1 - TL 14 - FC:0 L(x2)2:1 M:0 A:2 P:1 SP J2 G1* AV:2 0 - 9 *************************************** MA Vargr Trader - -1 - TL 13 - FC:0 L(x2)10:1-1-0-0 M:0 A:0 P:1 SP J2 G1* AV:0 - - 6 **************************************** Ive also converted the Common Imperial Transport from the Rebellion Sourcebook, first to BL then to BR, Price comes out about the same as I recall. Not nearly as many weapons however but still decently armed. I'll post it BL and BR as soon as I dig it up. Tariq Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 10:44:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Tariq M. Rashid" Subject: Re:Common Imp Transport Hey All Here is the common imperial transport from the rebellion sourcebook converted to battle rider statistics. The finished brilliant lances design had 9 of Starwolfs 106? MJ lasers and 3 of some bigger laser barbette, cant remember the energy. Half of the bridge workstations were moved to a 1/2 aux bridge. It has 8 missile MFDs and the lasers are adequately controlled. MP Common Imperial Transport - -3 - TL-15 L(x1-1)10:2-2-1-0 FC:-6 L(x3)-1)10:1 M:8(48) A:16 P:5 (S) FPP J3 G1 AV:0 1/2 aux br 1xshuttle SC:3 D:1 67/34 Comments 67 is normal point value, 34 if counted as transport, which it is. It would be easy to increase nukber of carried missiles but THIS IS NOT A WARSHIP!. Tariq