Handgun designs 10mm AutoSnub Pistol TL-8 Ammo: 10x17.5mm (Ea=604.76) (0.44Cr and 0.011kg @) (TL8) Barrel: 4cm 0.08kg 16Cr (E=423.33) Receiver: 11.066cm 0.75kg 150Cr (Light, SA) Pistol Grip: 0cm 0.1kg 5Cr Magazine: 0cm 0.1188kg 1.2Cr Capacity=14 Damage=1, Range=3, Pen=Nil, Recoil=2, Bulk=1, Price=143Cr Mass(unloaded): 0.93kg Mass(loaded): 1.2028kg (tinkered: Upped the mass of the receiver from .605kg to .75kg to reduce recoil) 10mm Auto Pistol TL-8 Ammo: 10x17.5mm (Ea=604.76) (0.44Cr and 0.011kg @) (TL8) Barrel: 10cm 0.2kg 40Cr Receiver: 11.066cm 1kg 200Cr (Light, SA) Pistol Grip: 0cm 0.1kg 5Cr Magazine: 0cm 0.1188kg 1.2Cr Capacity=14 Damage=2, Range=10, Pen=1-Nil, Recoil=2, Bulk=1, Price=245Cr Mass(unloaded): 1.3kg Mass(loaded): 1.5728kg (tinkered: Upped the mass of the receiver from .605kg to 1kg to reduce recoil) TL 9 9x20mm ETC Selective Fire Pistol Round Stats: 10g Cr0.2 Ball; Cr0.4 DS, HE, Tranq; Cr0.6 HEAP Ea=1323 23cm Light Barrel 0.5 Kg Cr92 E=2183 Light Receiver, Self Loading, Selective Fire (SA/3/5) ETC 16.5cm, 1Kg, Cr500 Hollow Pistol Grip 0.1 Kg Cr25 Grip Magazine 14 round capacity 0.37 Kg (empty) Cr 74 8cm Muzzle Brake 0.4Kg Cr200 8cm Flash Suppressor 0.08 Kg Cr8 Loaded Weight 2.5 Kg Length 47.5cm (18 inches) bulk: 3 Recoil SS 3B 5B 1 2 3 Options: Removable Carbine Stock Total loaded weight 3.2 Kg 25 cm 20 round magazine (extends below grip) 0.68 Kg (unloaded) Cr106.8 32 round magazine (extends below grip) 1.0 Kg (unloaded) Cr10 9cm barrel (no muzzle brake, 4 cm muzzle brake) 0.28 Kg Cr86 (total pistol loaded weight=1.83Kg, bulk=1) Recoil SS 3B 5B 2 3 5 23cm barrel (+8cm of MB&FS) 9cm barrel Damage Pen Range Damage Pen Range Ball 3 2-Nil 37 2 1-Nil 15 HE 2 Nil 28 2 Nil 11 DS 3 1-2-Nil 44 2 1-2-Nil 18 HEAP 2 2-2-2 28 2 2-2-2 11 Trang -1 Nil 22 -1 Nil 9 with stock Ball 3 2-Nil 120 HE 2 Nil 90 DS 3 1-2-Nil 144 HEAP 2 2-2-2 90 Trang -1 Nil 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This weapon is based on the long barreled 9mm Luger pistols issued to German submarine and artillery troops during WWII. These pistols had barrels just under a foot long (1 foot = 30.5cm). They had optional stocks and 32 round drum magazines. The provided a weapon that in a pinch could serve as a pistol, a carbine or a submachine gun. It didn't serve any of these functions as well as a seperate weapon designed for each function. It did how fit the role for these non-front line troops. Given the non-military function of GUESS, such a weapon would fit for a lot of the crew. The 9x20mm ETC round I designed has a average barrel length of 10cm. FF&S rules allows a maximum barrel length of 23cm. I added 8cm of muzzle brake and flash suppressor for a total barrel length of 31cm. The longer barrel nearly doubled the muzzle energy. This more than doubled the range and brought the damage up to 3. This barrel has a plastic grip attached to the bottom of the barrel, along the back two thirds. This allows the firer to steady the weapon without burning his or her hand. Such action is usually taken only when the detachable carbine stock is attached. This stock more than triples the range. I also designed 20 and 32 round magazines which would extend out the bottom of the grip. These come in handy when firing in 3 or 5 round burst mode. Of course various sighting options can be added as well. I figure that the weapon is issued as a heavy pistol with the 9cm barrel. The 31cm barrel/MB/FS combination, stock and extra long magazines would be availabe to crew memebers at the decrestion of the mission commander. Mark Urbin mju@ftp.com